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I hope so WE one would think with Coleman's sub 46 ability on the 4x4 he would have plenty of SE left over in the tank but it does not seem to be the case.

August 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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[email protected] at August 13, 2017 at 3:17 PM

Speed when it comes to Coleman would you recommend more SE style workouts using 300s 500s or something significant ly less???

For me I won't run 500's, that's too long, Coleman is a short sprinter. For me it doesn't appear it's an issue of fatigue, conditioning, for all we know, he could be doing all the work in training necessary, to be able to finish, or the work that has been done, again not able to get the same results on the senior level.


In looking at Coleman's running style, technique, sprint mechanics, all of this has to be taken into account. Coleman obviously is short, smallish type sprinter, so he is working with the tools he has. I would focus on what he is doing upon reaching maxV, really focus on his mechanics, technique. What we have seen at the senior level when he is pressed. I just watched in slow motion head on Coleman's carry in the 4x100. From when he got the stick, until he finished. A few things going on, he has bad shoulder and hip rotation, on each foot strike, his anke rocker is very poor, both feet go out from the ankle, back to the heel, this impacts his toeoff, support leg, his triple extension, his force application into the ground. He is spending more time on the ground than he should, this shorten's his knee lift and as such his kickout on his frontside touch down.


Now if you're spending more time than you should with your foot on the track in particular in deceleration, you will be braking more and decelerating at a faster rate and of course if the competition is doing a better job of braking less, decelerating at a slower rate, these two combinations spell disaster for Coleman with respect not being able to close at the senior level, where again the quality and speed in better than on the college level as a whole.

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August 14, 2017 at 1:49 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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[email protected] at August 14, 2017 at 1:34 PM

I hope so WE one would think with Coleman's sub 46 ability on the 4x4 he would have plenty of SE left over in the tank but it does not seem to be the case.

I'm assured that you know the significant differences between structured speed and special (specific breadth) endurance work.   As well as the effects they have with overall skeletal (apart from cardiac) muscle.


And how are they necessary to benefit controlled deceleration at maximal and/or supermaximal speeds?

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August 14, 2017 at 1:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Unfortunately WE I'm clueless that is why I'm asking questions from ppl like you and Speed.
August 14, 2017 at 4:42 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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[email protected] at August 14, 2017 at 4:42 PM

Unfortunately WE I'm clueless that is why I'm asking questions from ppl like you and Speed.

Dwight, I understand.   The more convenient, and perhaps less detailed, is to solve latent short dash issues with long sprint bouts.   However, as Speed detailed in his recent comment, the "breakdown" late in races can be associated with doing things uncommon with early sprint mechanics.


As Speedfirst described so well, Coleman's urgency to "get to that line" sacrificed good posture and efficient transport mechanics.   One thing I liked about Belcher was his ability to carry these attributes through his races.   Difference, of course, is Coleman's ability to generate larger ground forces and more complimentary air time responses.


I would also think that raising the game towards higher training responses (i.e, short segment speeds) with emphasis in efficient transport mechanism as opposed to moving far right on the velocity/time curve.   And then again, I've never been very successful with improving the sustainability of high sprinting velocities with long sprint runs!

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August 14, 2017 at 7:26 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Coach W.E., I concur, long sprint runs don't work for me, too many bad things happen, then you now have more work to do, that can and does take away the time you can be using to continue to build upon the good things you have established.  


Especially if we are talking about a short sprinter, at the most he or she is running 200m in their events. So with that being the case, every stride is important, work on perfecting that, of all of what that entails. Part, part, whole is the idea . The whole is greater than the sum of its parts, having that synergy.

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August 14, 2017 at 9:58 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Speed would you use 400m workouts on down?????
August 16, 2017 at 5:18 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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Or high intensity workouts 120-150m sprints with 15-20 minute rest????
August 16, 2017 at 5:19 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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WE your thoughts on 2017 as a whole on sprinters who made a impact!!!!!!
August 21, 2017 at 1:54 PM Flag Quote & Reply

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